Connected City traffic circles and intersections
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adjourn? I do have a question um just on the and I've been looking at the connected city plan. And um I know this was done before we were doing the um traffic circles. And I see all kinds of intersections within Connected City. Are there traf are they traffic circles or are they lights?
On curley?
Uh I see one, two, three.
I see a lot of intersections, so just hopefully there's circles.
was not. Uh there's actually the master roadway plan has the intersection diagrams for traditional intersections. Um that is unfortunate we didn't have a lot of support for the traffic circles until afterwards, which is when we were able to work on curly road and actually get some of that uh place in there. It does not preclude uh people from doing those Internal, we can also have some means to maybe do some of those on the roadways where it makes sense. Um can't do 'em at all the intersections
just because of the size of the roads there. Um but uh where it makes sense we can certainly consider that, work with applicants to do that as an option if it's something they want we don't have
to
do.
But currently MSAP does Have quite a few circles also, but like overpass couldn't necessarily be a circle because it's crossing that road. Yeah. I think Rangeland Boulevard
wins the award for the most, Rangeland Boulevard. Fine. But but Curly's Curly's close. So there's going to be fuel on that road um over time. I think we believe we have three right now. Mr.
Weightman. Thank you, Chairman, that whatever that intersection that overpass
It's a pretty large intersection there. That's a pretty hairy. crossing goin' east west. Uh there's currently I don't think a red light there at minimum. Red light is overpass, yes. We need to we need some to take a look at that.
I believe uh
We get a lot of emails.
Yeah, we do we do get a lot and uh we've uh there's there's warrants that we need to do and and different things that happen to kind of make sure that these are are truly necessary lights and and that there's other options that we can use to try to control the traffic.
Well the amount of golf cart traffic in the morning in the mornings going eastbound, take kids to school. Yep. You've got a mix of commercial vehicle, residential traffic, parents on golf carts. I cringe it's cringeworthy to drive that. Yes, to go to Watergrass.
That's all the parents that have been coming here. Yeah, there's there's a lot of
community now. They're coming.
But they're coming from Eperson. Epperson and all that was uh set up to be a golf cart community. There's
a there's a portion of Epperson that's actually north of Watergrass on that side of Curley Road where there's uh charter school there now that some of that golf cart traffic also tries to make that track as well. Uh there's a few different ways. Um We're working with County Engineer and several other folks to to look at watergrass, the scenario there. Um Overpass has some restrictions um as to what we can do with overpass. Um but we're trying to kind of look at all of that. But there is I I believe they are looking at that uh the signalization of that intersection
I believe it is on the plans to be signalized. It's it was just a matter of timing as to when
it can't happen soon enough.
Yeah, I agree. Yes. But but I the nice thing about that though is the number of golf carts that are there. You know, the number of golf carts being used in these communities, that's what these communities were designed for and they're actually playing out that way. So I think that's a good thing too.
I think late on getting that road on on through to go to Cossack in three oh one. But Um The fact that All that traffic hit over there so quickly it some of those roads were not prepared to take it to Hancart. And we're Yeah. It's I know we got a move it's like a moving target and it's moving in the right way. but it does take time to design and get things right. So we gotta remember that. Our staff's working hard to to do that. But we've had a lot of like you said, we have
a lot of emails and things of this nature that's coming into us all the time. I actually I've seen um engineering staff put out the right message to folks. and a week later they're back asking the same thing again. I mean kinda gets irritated because we've answered it. But they're impatient and I understand their impatience 'cause we all have that tendency to be impatient about The good things were coming. And staff's really working hard
at at
making that happen. Development is a is a very complex thing and it's often difficult to discuss with some folks that don't have understand some of the basic concepts, but we do want to make sure that anybody that has concerns can reach out to us. We're happy to sit down and talk with anybody and uh and talk 'em through, provide them information, whatever they need to try and try and help them understand.