Nomination and vote for chairman and vice chairman
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Mr. Chairman Mariano.
Well let me um if you don't mind I'd like to um I've got the gabble.
So now I have control. All right, so I love it. I like it. An hour
later.
Okay, so at this time I will open up for nominations for chairman of the board.
Well it's a nominate Commissioner Starkey.
Okay. We have nomination of Commissioner Starkey. Are there any other nominations? Okay, hearing none, I'm going to close nominations. So Commissioner Starkey has been nominated as the chair, and I will take a motion.
Hello.
Okay. What do you
mean? Let me take a vote? Yeah.
Well he uh nominated her, so I'm asking For the motion, but we'll take it. Okay. So is there a second?
Yeah, I'll second it.
All right. Commissioner Starkey seconds. Um all in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
You're you you have a um commissioner that is not present, so you're you're need gonna need to do roll call. I'm
gonna do double duty. Go
ahead, get asked questions. questions.
Okay. If there's only one nomination, do you vote?
I would So does everyone make a nomination or
You can um at the time that I called the nominations, you could made a nomination. I did close a nomination though. I was wondering if it goes to a vote because that's a new vote. Yes, we're voting now. Yeah. Yes ma'am. But oh there's no more nominations. Correct. I called for any other nominations and I didn't hear any, so then I closed nominations. Sorry. Well yeah.
If there would
you like for me to reopen the yes, ma'am?
Um just asking if there are no other nominations, is there a Yes,
there should
be a vote.
I think the problem we get is Christina didn't understand the procedures because she's new to the board. And I think that's what she's questioning right now.
Did you would uh I can explain. Would you like for me to explain the procedures? Yes. Okay. So um every year um there's the process of nominating a new chair of the board and at that time the current chair passes the gavel to the clerk to then um uh proceed with nominations. So called the nominations um for who would like to be the chair for the next coming year. And we had a nomination. Um, you know, Commissioner Mariano Mariano uh recommended or nominated Commissioner Starkey. Um she accepted. I called
for any other nominations, there were none, so then I closed the nominations and now we are voting on the one that was um put forth. So if there's two nominations, how does
So if there were two,
then then the first nominee would be voted on and then the second nominee would be o voted on and the one that that got the most votes would We'd then I would then traditionally ask for a unanimous ballot for the one that got the most votes. And you still have after this the election uh the when When you vote on who the Chair is, The Chair will then conduct the election of the vice chair.
The new chair.
The new chair, yes.
Okay. All right. I did close nominations. Did we want to open the Mac up or no?
So Well let's vote.
I was gonna nominate Oakley.
So I'll have to ask um Jeff proper protocol. I did close nominations.
It's good. Right. If you if the board wishes to reopen nomina nominations, they can. But it the but that would be up Up to really if Commissioner Fitzgerald, uh Fitzpatrick, sorry. once once to push that i uh mean once once that to occur.
So Commissioner Fitzpatrick, would you like uh nominations to be reopened? Okay. So
I I would call Call the the n the motion that's on the floor and my roll
call
that.
All right. So I am going
well I don't I'm still what just what w what just took place, no.
So Mr. Fitzpatrick does not want to have the the floor reopened for nominations. You had the nomination on the floor.
So if I say open, then he would still need a second.
Sorry.
If you wish to have it reopened to nominate another commissioner You have that you have that ability. That would then
Closure would have to be reconsidered by the board, I guess. I have not gotten to the point where you have a reop reopened, but Um If that if if you're fine with the way it is, then we should we need we should proceed.
I would like to reopen and nominate. On Oakley.
Jeff, do I need to um call um a vote on her mo um to her reopening or is it any commissioner can reopen?
I think any I think any commissioner can re open given given New commissioner. All right. Thank you. And so now now the the vote The way I would proceed at this point is The nomination for Commissioner Starkey. Should Should be voted on first. the the nomination for Commissioner Oakley Should be Second. It should should be called
second. Okay. And then majority majority wins.
Okay. So um N the Commissioner Starkey was um was nominated by Commissioner Mariano. Um Commissioner Starkey seconded. So I'm gonna go through roll call vote uh for Commissioner Starkey.
Madam Clerk, can I make a can you make a comment before we get to the vote?
Yes, go ahead.
I was I was gonna say Ronnie Oakley was gonna be my s my m my recommendation for vice chair. I'll just say that.
Mine as well. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So I'm going to go through and um do a roll call vote. District one, Commissioner Oakley.
That would be on Commissioner Starkey.
So we're doing the um vote for Commissioner Starkey at this point.
No.
Okay. Um District Two, Commissioner Moore.
No.
District three, Commissioner Starkey. Yes. District four, Commissioner Fitzpatrick.
You
gotta
ex
explain to her what we're voting. So
we're voting.
So if you wa if you want Commissioner Starkey to be Chair, it would be yes. If you wanted Commissioner Oakley, who you've nominated to be Chair it would be nay.
Come
boy.
No.
And uh District Five, Commissioner Oriano.
Okay. We have three votes. for Commissioner Starkey. I'm sorry, three votes for Commissioner Oakley, two votes for Commissioner Starkey.
You voted
on Commissioner Starkey.
And now I now I'd like to make a comment. Okay. So We have had a tradition in this county of rotating the chairmanships. And um I'm a little offended here today. I've been a commissioner for eight years and a school board member for six. I ran a very efficient meeting. Um I don't understand this. Slight and I I frankly I'm I don't think it's appropriate. And um I'm just disappointed. Uh
we treat our fellow board members with respect, and I think this is disrespectful, and I just feel that I need to say that. Um we have had
Chairman Oak Commissioner Oakley was chair last year.
Uh
uh.
No? Oh before more, yes. It went I think it went w more Wells, more Oakley, I I don't recall, but Um it we haven't had the rotation that I think is traditional in this county. And uh I think that's a dangerous precedent to set. So Um I'm gonna be voting no for Commissioner Oakley. I think you're very capable Chair, but I think I am too.
be happy to see you as vice chair and and get our rotation going back again, but I'll be voting no for those reasons. Thank you.
One one comment, if I could too. And I and I could appreciate I appreciate that too. I look at you look at other counties and not every county, you know, does a rotation. I I look at Hillsborough County and and uh their chair was the same for many years actually um obviously that commission felt that chairperson did a good job of running a meeting and basically what you're doing as chairs is running a meeting. You know we don't have a mayoral system here in Pasco County by any means. I mean um the job as a chair basically is just to
run in efficient meeting and that's what it in signed paperwork and that's what it comes down to. So I don't you know, I understand. I don't want everybody to think it's any type of slight because You know, I think that's a good idea Everybody's a great job and a great job in the community and and such as well. But this is just about running a meeting is really what it comes down to. Running in a in efficient meeting and everybody's obviously capable and uh of doing that, just Some t you know, it's not a good thing. Sometimes
it's just uh You know, but uh Some people feel that. Some run very official meetings. And again that's the same thing I I I use, you know, the Hillsborough County example and they've they've felt that chair. They just keep bringing the same chair back, back and back and everybody's fine with it there. Oh.
Any other comments? Right, I'm going to call um for a Commissioner Oakley's vote. We had the nomination by Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Do I have a second?
One second.
All right, second by Commissioner Moore. I'm going to call roll call vote, District One, Commissioner Oakley.
Aye.
District two, Commissioner Moore.
Aye.
District three, Commissioner Starkey?
No.
District four, Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Aye. District five, Commissioner Mariano.
I'm sorry I didn't catch that. Thank you. So we have a vote of three in favor and four against on the vote. The uh motion carries
three ahead. Three in favor, two against the.
I'm sorry, it meant that opposite. Three in favor, two against the vote. Um Commissioner Oakley is the new chair. Thank you.
Okay. All right.
Wait, hold on. You need to keep the best.
You got this?
Please.
Well you're quick to move that, weren't you?
If
you're already on the move and I will make the same.
Do I don't have to move, do I? Uh sometimes I have to go over there.
Which one?
About the same. We'll get new ones. That might be mine. I don't know which one's mine.
All right. We'll get another one.
You're safe.
Yeah.
Thank you for the board's confidence. I think ever like I say, I think everybody's Very If you're good at running meetings. Um At this time we're gonna Uh open a floor for Nominations for vice chair.
One. Well nominate Commissioner Starkey.
I'll second.
Have a nomination, Commissioner Starkey, Vice Chairman, and I got a second by Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Any other nominations?
Nope, we're good.
Bash? So we only have the one nomination vice chair? And We s probably still need to have root call, but we're not going to be able to We have to have a roll call vote.
District One, Commissioner Oakley.
Aye.
District two, Commissioner Moore.
Aye.
District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Aye. District five, Commissioner Mariano.
Hi. Thank you. Votes unanimous for Mr. Starkey, the vice chairman.
It's okay.
I don't know what you give this chair, Commissioner Oakley or Chairman Mariano.
You got a problem with the chair or
You got enough room over there? Right.
Okay.
So that takes care of the reorganization.
What comes next here?
Public comment. Other comments. Okay.