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Commissioner Fitzpatrick Moon Lake roads and community events

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Christina Fitzpatrick

Actually I don't I've never really rode a public bus. I've rode the Metro in New York and that's about it. So I did go to the Somebody Cares event. It was a bunch of pastors and the community and everyone coming together and to serve their communities. I think what they're having on September 25th, they're gonna have their cares fest. On September 25th from 8 30 to 1 at Waterfront, they're gonna meet and then they're gonna go

to somebody's home. Whether they're elderly or disabled or whether it was a code infraction and they're gonna go and help restore their homes and I would really like to become more of a partner with that as well. That is September twenty fifth. Next I would like to do we have the photos for Moon Lake?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Oh boy.

Christina Fitzpatrick

Yes, so I have some photos and There have been some roads that have been identified as an impassable by the fire department.

And due to safety and do we have other can you move Wait

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

uh um Commissioner if you go back Go back one. I you may not know this. I did not know this till I became a commissioner. When you see that white sign that says Wander, if it's white, we don't maintain it.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

But that's we don't maintain it. That's not it's private.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Say that again? We

Unidentified speakerVoice B

don't do it here in that road. So unmaintained county road. It's an it's likely an un if it's in Moon Lake, it's likely an unmaintained county road. It was dedicated to the public by a plat. Most of them are out there. We have done one time fixes in Moon Lake because

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

of that. One time.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Right.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Yeah. I've got some of those in in Odessa.

Christina Fitzpatrick

So if you'd like to go to the next slide.

There are cars that are getting stuck in the water.

And they're having to wait for help. And if we go to the The next slide. I believe there's one specific s photo I'm looking for. Yes. So a bus got stuck.

in on the roads. So I think it's very dangerous and it is a safe not only is it a safety issue and a safety concern when fire department and ambulances can't get to homes to citizens in our neighborhoods, but it's very mind boggling when you see a bus that could or could not ha may or may not have children on them and they're trying to go pick up children. It's also a quality of life concern because they're not able to get regular

garbage pickup.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

That bus is not available.

Wha where is that bus? Is that a road?

Looks like he's in a park.

It's someone living in that bus. That happens out there.

Christina Fitzpatrick

No. It was I believe it was on its way to pick up kids that day. It was on its way to pick up some kids.

Jack Mariano

There's there's no name on the bus. Where would it be from? Yeah,

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

that's not that's

Christina Fitzpatrick

it may not be a Pasco County school bus, but there are other schools that use buses. So it is a concern, regardless, because there could be kids on that bus and it's very dangerous. So Again, there have been roads identified as impassable, such as Helford, Shalomar, Smoky Lake Loop, Hedges Street, Elsa Street, Jungle Street, and Helena Street. And I would like to make a motion to direct

staff to obtain a one-time cost estimate and confirm if they are public roads and then consider them. For maintenance.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Yeah I'm not I don't know about that.

Jack Mariano

I mean st staff can stay in the right-of-way.

I've got two items I'm bringing back up. Yeah,

Christina Fitzpatrick

I can so I discussed this earlier, so Mike Carvalho, would you like to speak on that?

County Administrator

I think there's a couple different requests in there. There

Christina Fitzpatrick

are

County Administrator

to

Christina Fitzpatrick

What would the one-time cost estimate before?

County Administrator

The other one is what would the long-term maintenance responsibility be if the county took those over from

Christina Fitzpatrick

consider them.

County Administrator

I think those but those are both ask us to go do research and bring the information back.

Christina Fitzpatrick

And if they are public roads, because the majority of those roads in Moon Lake are public roads.

County Administrator

public roads. It's just not they were never accepted by maintenance by the county.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

There yeah, the there most of the most of the ones that I've had to look at, most of these plats in Moonlight are dedicated to the public. So there's, you know, a high likelihood that these are public roads. Seventy Um but I I had Told the commissioner that if they're private roads we don't even do a one-time fix on them. Right. So we'll we'll we'll public work

County Administrator

will take that and build an estimate and bring it back for consideration on both items or two separate issues.

Christina Fitzpatrick

Well there was three.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

But but I wanna underst I wanna know if the one time fix has already occurred.

County Administrator

Well we'll that'll be part of the research.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Because we all have roads in our district that are That'll that'll be part of the reason.

Ron OakleyChair

You can open up a can of worms on a lot of roads like that.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

I don't mind assessing. For maintenance.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

If they're impassable, I think the board's position has been that they will do a one-time fix even if it's a multiple one-time fix. If if fire tells you that you they can't get a public room. Right. Um but It's again it's a it i we don't know what the cost of this ask is right now.

Christina Fitzpatrick

And the fire department has gone out and has deemed that these road these roads on my in my email ha are deemed impassable. So that's why I'm asking for the one time fix or a cost estimate of the one time fix. And then also to confirm if they are public roads and then third would consider them for maintenance at that point when you bring back the information.

County Administrator

Yeah, because there'll be an aim an estimate for what the maintenance would be on the yes.

Christina Fitzpatrick

But

County Administrator

Yeah, that's just a remote.

Ron OakleyChair

Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, we can do that. Okay.

Christina Fitzpatrick

And the last thing I would like to mention is on Saturday I went to one of the many nine eleven memorial w memorials at the Premium Outlets and they have dedicated a whole memorial wall. And Steven Spellman, a 9-11 firefighter, loaned a piece of the fire truck to the premium outlets to hang in. the Memorial Wall and I

would just like to dedicate to him and I would also like to honor the heroes and remember to never forget 9-11, the 2,977 victims, the 343 firefighters, the seventy-two law enforcement officers, and over twenty-five thousand people that were injured that day. So thank you.