Development Agreement (Consent) – Renner MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – KB Homes LLC – Proposed is a Modification to the Development Agreement (DA) for the Renner MPUD

2:04:59on I thought we have a kept it on the consent agenda or Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, like sign. Motion passes four zero. Uh move on to P seventy-five.

2:05:14P seventy five was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times October eleventh, twenty twenty three.

2:05:19P75 is PDD 240056 of the development agreement amendment. Renter MPUD Master Plan Unit Development, KB Homes LLC, modification to develop to the development agreement for the renter MPUD. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the local planning agency and the planning and development department.

2:05:39Is there anyone here sig is anyone signed up?

2:05:41But I'd like to can I get a quick presentation? 'Cause I did a lot of work on this M P D C staff member is here.

2:05:50So is there anybody in the audience wish to speak against this item?

2:05:56Not seeing anyone, we move on. Well she's a presentation. Yeah. We have that presentation.

2:06:05Good afternoon, William from Millenni Planning and Development.

2:06:10So this is item PDD 240056. It's an amendment to the renter DA. Uh here's the location of the Renter MPUD. And so this is uh an amendment to the approved DA that was required uh in the original DA, paragraph 11.

2:06:29Uh here's a subject site location at MPD uh on Bexley Road. And here's a quick contextual map showing uh the subject site, Bexley Road, and the uh Clark property MPD and the Hagman MPD to the north.

2:06:46And so the the modification essentially is modifying the exhibits of what the developer is going to be uh uh essentially doing and providing that twelve foot multi-use path and the sidewalk along those segments of road. Uh both section sections A and C, which are shown here. Um so section A is that blue highlighted portion of the roadway. Section C is the pink.

2:07:18And here is another exhibit further highlighting those three sections of road.

2:07:25So what's what's being modified? That's my question. Okay,

2:07:28so it's essentially it's those those exhibits and the the modification to this it to this uh DA was required by the original because at the time of the approval of the DA uh feasibility wasn't known because engineering hadn't been done. about what the developer could or could not build. And so they determined that on section A uh on that uh exhibit there that the uh The 12-foot multi-use path is going to be extended west on the north side of Bexley Road when

2:07:58the remaining segments of the Vision Road are constructed. There's currently an insignificant right-of-way currently and the parcels aren't owned by the applicant. And uh on section C There is currently insignificant right-of-way on the south side of the wisteria loop to construct the five foot sidewalk and to provide the required substandard road uh improvements. So the applicant is providing that sidewalk on the north side of the wisteria loop because that Clark MPUD

2:08:28is uh controlling the land that's already been set aside for drainage and floodplain mitigation.

2:08:33Okay, so Board members, we we had quite a few meetings on this, and I went out there with our county engineers and their engineers. And Ray Gad And if you remember the sheriff lived here. Um Part of the problem on this road, and this is part for our new ACA, was that part of this road is designed as a urban section, and part of this road is an urb, a rural section. And

2:09:04It gets s in the trail, the multi use trail is supposed to be on the north side of the road. Correct. And so I am curious what was worked out in front of that was that a Lenar neighborhood or who whose neighborhood is up there close to Forty One where um That's the first one we approved and it's built. It's wraps around our elderly nutrition building that's over there.

2:09:30Yeah.

2:09:33And Clark, that that Hagman M P U D, they were they were donating some land to the county. And that there was plenty of room for that trail to go through that. So where is that land donation? I I just

2:09:45uh I need a lot more specifics in here.

2:09:54Because it sounds it if I'm hearing you right, we're just getting little bits and pieces of the multi-use trail, and that was how this neighborhood

2:10:02Right.

2:10:04Yeah, un unfortunately they they just don't own or control any of the land.

2:10:09We do because that was given to us that Where's the applicant?

2:10:17Hey Sally. Um do you have more maps than this? Because where's the piece of land that Hagman That bottom piece along Wisteria was given to the county. Or or the developer.

2:10:31So unfortunately, our engineer is not here today. Um but I can't tell you the exhibits that are laid out with Shelly.

2:10:38Name

2:10:38her. I'm sorry, Shelley Johnson, [address removed], and I have been sworn. Thank you. Um when the engineers went back and looked at that, they have consulted with Mr. Gadd, they've consulted with Mr. Couch. Um I think the sheriff was aware of what we're doing. Yeah,

2:10:50Jeremy lives out on this road too.

2:10:52Yeah, everybody has met out there and discussed exactly What we're proposing on these exhibits? The changes or the original proposal? No, the changes. And everybody is in agreement with the changes. So

2:11:03so can you be more specific to me than Saying it's A, B, and C are you building your so you are not building the multi-use trail?

2:11:11So the multi use path according to the engineers and everybody that looked at it what can be fit is in section A, which is the first section on the exhibit. If you go to exhibit A, I believe is where it has the sections laid out. That really

2:11:28On that particular section, there's a twelve foot multi-use trail that will be extended to the west on the north side of Bexley Road.

2:11:37From that map you have no idea where you're talking about.

2:11:39So if you go to the additional exhibits, and I think section A is set forth on, let me see here.

2:11:48It would be the second page of exhibit A. There's two. Sorry, there's two key maps setting for section A, and then the next one after that sets for section C. Okay, this is the perfect

2:12:02map because see that big piece of land there that Big Light green piece, that's been given to the county by Hagman. So there's plenty of room to put a trail in there.

2:12:13So that would be on section C. Um and what the engineers are saying is there's currently insufficient right of way to construct a sidewalk. And I believe that that land on the north side is controlled by the Um another MPD that DR.

2:12:30The

2:12:30Hagman said

2:12:30they would they're giving that to us. I mean that could be a park and a trailhead. So someone has dropped a ball on this because there's plenty of room. for the multi-use trail to go on that piece of land. I mean

2:12:44As of right now there is not. Now I'm not sure.

2:12:46No, there's there's acres and acres. You're that piece was given to us. Or pledge to us. From the Hagman MP. Don't you guys you guys remember this?

2:12:57I'm new to this.

2:12:59Okay, I am a hundred percent positive that they said that we could have that peace. So I'm not buying that we can't put the trail there. So this was gonna have to be continued. 'Cause I I won't go for that one. When we have plenty of room for the trail.

2:13:13I mean yeah, we'll be happy to go back. I'll have the engineer here and we'll be happy to go back and and look at it. But from I'm just telling you from what I know standing here today. My I'm being told there's insufficient right away currently and that's why it's being designed the way it is. That they tried to fit what they could wear. Yeah. And everybody, all the interested parties, at least the resident interested parties on the road and that that were involved in this coming up through process of the right-of-way.

2:13:35You didn't have

2:13:37either

2:13:37Clark or someone from the Hagman M PUD there to tell you that well you have all that ro all That's right. Can

2:13:46you go back to the other map? My understanding is that the area that you're looking at right now is being used for their stormwater. And so what they gave us is what they could give us and there's not any additional right of way there. That's my understanding because we have actually worked with that that other owner to try to get what we could from them.

2:14:05I I I s I need to list I recall them saying that we could that they would give that to us. And there would be plenty of room for the trail there.

2:14:15So they said that they would work with us on it, and there is, I believe, a condition in their approval that required them to work with us on it. Um so that's what they did. But again, we don't control it. And so what they gave us is what they said they were willing in terms of what we could do. There's

2:14:30a problem if they didn't give us enough to fit the trail. So Uh again, I'm gonna go back and We're gonna have to dig into this a little more.

2:14:39Yeah,

2:14:40right. I mean,

2:14:40I'll be happy

2:14:41to go back to

2:14:41that.

2:14:41Because this is really important for that community, because There's no room on that road and that's gonna be a busy road to ride anywhere. I mean, and this is how they're gonna get get over to the Orange Belt Trail. So

2:14:55And I don't know.

2:14:56This was a whole condition of approval for me, and that's why I went out there and met with Jeremy and Ray and our engineering staff and their engineers and we walked it. And I don't remember if Clark was there or not, but there was plenty of room for the multi-use path. And it was didn't have to be smooshed up against the road.

2:15:14Yes, I think that's a good thing. When we went back and discussed with them, what we did is what they said they had room for. And I believe and I don't know how far along they are in their site plans, so I don't even know if their stormwater has been approved. But I think what we were told and what c the county's been told or the staff has been told is that they're utilizing some of that for their stormwater drainage and so we could not there there was nothing more to give. That was what we're doing.

2:15:36Mr. Chairman M Uh and I I agree with Commissioner Starkey a hundred percent. When this was talked about, that was an easy thing. I've been out there to see the site as well. It shouldn't be a problem. And if it means we got to bring the other developer in to have the conversation. With them, it's gonna be our staff that's gonna have to lead that conversation. And I suggest that you're going to be able to do that.

2:15:57Okay, on the next section, um section C. What are you saying about section C?

2:16:07And that is the c the uh transition I think from the Rural to the urban. road section, which we all knew had to be worked out. When this was all started.

2:16:24So on on section C it's a a similar issue with the insignificant right away on the south side of the road.

2:16:31Well I don't think we ever wanted it on the south, we want it on the north.

2:16:34Well it was insig insignificant right away to construct the the five foot sidewalk that's gonna be along south.

2:16:40But there's room on the north to connect to

2:16:43section C there's room on the north.

2:16:45For the multi-use pack. Okay. Okay.

2:16:48Um That's not an issue.

2:16:51um you know the restaurants and all that, Capital Taco and all that that's out there on the south side, but they'll They'll have to cross safely. If there's no room. On the cell. I'm not I'm not as worked up about that as much as making sure that multi-use trail gets put in.

2:17:08Correct, and we can certainly confirm that with the the developers at Hagman. Okay.

2:17:14Uh move to continue.

2:17:16Two would be one uh January twenty third Uh twenty twenty four if you want it here in Newport Ritchie at one thirty or soon thereafter.

2:17:27Is this one that can go on either side?

2:17:29Uh yeah, with it with its proximity to to US forty one, you you could do it on either side, especially given that we haven't had any members of the public reach out to us. Probably need the time though.

2:17:41Um can we say either or?

2:17:44Well you can continue it to the January ninth meeting and then continue it again.

2:17:51Um Shelly, how much time do you think you'll need?

2:18:06Okay. So

2:18:06we'll

2:18:06I was just trying to help them. Okay. So uh move to continue to the second meeting in January.

2:18:13January 23rd, 2024.

2:18:15January 23rd. Okay. Okay. And a second. I got a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed like so? Motion passed, four zero. To continue? Move on to B seventy eight.

2:18:32Seventy

2:18:32sixty six what seventy six, excuse me. Okay,