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An Ordinance By The Pasco County Board Of County Commissioners Amending The Pasco County Land Development Code Section 1302.2 Mobility Fees, To Increase The Mobility Fees For Various Uses; To Decrease The Mobility Fees For Certain Locally Owned Small Businesses; To Amend The Mobility Fee Regulations To Be Consistent With Chapter 2021-63, Laws Of Florida; And Other Amendments As Necessary To Ensure Internal Consistency; Providing For Applicability, Repealer, Severability, Inclusion In The Pasco County Land Development Code, And An Effective Date.

Proposed Ordinances at 1:30 p.m.PDD-21-0499District All

What the county recorded

Published agenda

Staff recommendation

No Action Required

Approved minutes

DispositionContinued

Continued to the September 15, 2021 Board of County Commissioners meeting time certain at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.

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The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Aug 10, 2021

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Approved minutes

The county’s minutes for Board of County Commissioners, Aug 10, 2021

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PDD-21-0499 in full →

PDD-21-0499 was taken up 5 times between Jul 22, 2021 and Sep 28, 2021, continued 2 times — this is appearance 2.

  1. Jul 22, 2021PlanningPC10No disposition in the minutes
  2. Aug 10, 2021BoardP113Continuedthis item
  3. Aug 24, 2021BoardP83Continued
  4. Sep 15, 2021BoardP102No action
  5. Sep 28, 2021BoardP72Adopted

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OakleyChair

Aye. Motion pass 4-0. Uh P one thirteen.

StarkeyVice Chair

Item P one thirteen was published in the Tampay Times on July eighteenth, twenty twenty one.

Denise

On uh P one thirteen, this item, um, should I read it by title? This is the first reading on the item, and Mr. Bill Oliver will have a presentation on the item. Okay. D twenty one zero four nine nine, an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 1302.

Owned small businesses to amend the mobility fee regulations to be consistent with Chapter 2021-63 laws of Florida and other amendments as necessary to ensure internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, severability, inclusion into the land Pasco County Land Development Code, and an effective date. And again, Mr. Bill Oliver will uh have a presentation on this item.

OakleyChair

Okay.

Bill Oliver

Good afternoon. Um We're here to present to you recommendations of staff for the adoption of the or update of your mobility fee program. Um I was I've participated in this study since uh 2011, uh original adoption 2014 update, 2018 update, and now the 2021 update. Um somebody's advanced a slide extra here. Back up one, please. There we

go. So typically what I like to do in these presentations is summarize what has changed since the last study was up and fee schedules were updated, and then we'll pres- I'll present to you what the staff's recommended action is for you as it is in the ordinance. Next slide, please. And a brief history. The most significant point on this particular slide is item number C, which is underlined. Uh you have held your mobility fees constant, essentially, with few adjustments

here and there, but mostly unchanged since the year 2011 fee was adopted. And you've been able to do this because you adopted a second local option gas tax, you've implemented a tax increment uh financing district countywide to help fund transportation needs. Um and somewhere in the Record of adopting this fee back uh updating this fee in 2018, I made the comment that we can't keep holding these fees constant forever. Um

and so this year is the year in which we do need to make some adjustments in order to fund your transportation plan at your goal levels. So um your f fees Ms.

Mariano

Short Yes. Can I s stop for just one second? So didn't we just cut our mobility fees back because we're had enough collected?

County Administrator

No sir, you've added flexibility into your TIFF funding program. You haven't touched your mobility piece.

Fitzpatrick

Do you know what

Double Scram

I'm saying?

Fitzpatrick

Mr. Chairman M didn't we provide an additional incentives or adjust the incentives on the mobility fees?

Bill Oliver

You did and that's coming up, I think. So

in

Unidentified speakerVoice A

twenty twenty you did add additional incentives for the West Market area and for affordable housing, at the same time that you increased the fees for apartments. That was that occurred in twenty twenty. Does that answer your question?

Bill Oliver

Yes.

And that was item D on this slide.

Minor adjustments in twenty twenty. Next slide please. So one of the things that changed in during the course of this study was the Florida stat uh legislature adopted what's called House Bill 337. Uh the House Bill basically limited the ways in which mobility fees and impact fees across the board could be increased over time. There were two general categories of how this could happen. If your fee increases

were proposed at less than 50%, they had to be in certain prescribed steps. It was possible to increase your fees by more than 50% if you had a totally fresh study, and the Board of County Commissioners found extraordinary circumstances. and had a two thirds majority uh vote vote. Pasco County felt it was in the first position where basically over the next four years he'll be adop he Over the next four years, your

mobility fees will be stepwise increased, uh one quarter step each of the four years between now and 2025.

Moore

I'm gonna stop real quick. Sorry, apologize. I I I'm gonna make a motion to continue this. I don't nobody met with me on this item. I was gonna let it go for a while. I see faces, I watch faces. I did I I think we should all be briefed on this.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So so Commissioner, can I there actually was a meeting it was it was a while ago. It was been a while six months ago and there is a slide that talks about the results of those one on one uh meetings with the commissioner.

Moore

I'm just I'm I I understand. I don't know what's I'm just a little concerned that it's been so it's like we I remember discussions in the past. It was we haven't we didn't have a meeting geez. Well six months ago, so we haven't had one recently. I don't know.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

That's up to the board. I

Moore

just say there are a

lot of people.

I think you should meet if if the rest of it I don't know if you anybody met with the rest of the commissioners over the last, you know, two or three weeks, but if not, I I think you should have one on one meetings with all of us and then bring this back. That's my opinion.

Mariano

Mr. Mariano. I I agree a hundred percent because I I tell you I hate to ask that question I asked right off the bat because literally we just looked at our transportation, we just looked at our tax increment part, and we cut it back to give us flexibility. That tells me that our impact fees are okay. Um my first my first gut reaction when I look at it. When you talk to other people around Pasco, you know, we've got the highest uh impact fee around. I don't think I need to be any higher based upon having d done a cut

over there. So maybe a one-on-one might change

Unidentified speakerVoice A

my mind. I'll listen to it. We can meet one on one. They're not as significant of an increase as you think. They're like three percent increases per year. So and I thought the county administrator discussed of these with you in his one on one meetings as well. We'll meet with you again. So that's fine. No, and

Moore

mister Mr. Chairman Mari David, I appreciate I remember the meetings we did have Mr. Moore six months ago or so. It just it's been so long. We've been it through a lot in six months. I I really prefer that if we have that meeting aga we may all be we may all meet agreement when we step back up here, but I think um staff, Mr. Biles, your s team needs to probably set those meetings up.

OakleyChair

Well do we get time and bring it back give you time to speak to all the commissioners?

County Administrator

The 915 meeting in Dade City.

OakleyChair

Okay. That's you with everybody? September fifth? Okay. You wanna make that motion or

Moore

I'm I'll move to continue the sign.

OakleyChair

Second. Okay. Got a motion second. I'll move

OakleyChair

in place. So that's that's to a that's

Moore

to a time certain yes sir.

OakleyChair

Time

Moore

certain nine fifteen?

OakleyChair

Nine fifteen is Yeah. One thirty or soon thereafter maybe or thank you. Okay. Yeah. All right, thank

Moore

you. Thank you. I just knew we we're gonna have a lot of date on the just the opening that does it probably need to have